As the vehicle pulled up into the kerb, John Artis waved from the passenger side.
Jonny Carter, Rubin’s cousin, was a picture of concentration as he manoeuvred his car into the space.
It was, in the beginning, our chance to interview Artis and Carter together – although not the Carter whose story was united with Artis’ so several decades ago.
Artis greeted us with his enormous, bellowing, life-affirming laugh that has been his signature.
Whatever he has experienced from the past 50 years, nothing has diminished his sense of humour.
We had picked quite a grand setting – Colonial Williamsburg, a living history museum in Virginia.
We went along to a converted barn that had been changed into a restaurant, that has been, if we came, completely vacant.
Artis did not take his coat off while we were there, and kept on his baseball cap with the name of this machine he served in during the Vietnam War onto it.
We settled down in the front of the flame, providing much needed warmth as early spring sun set and the temperatures dropped.
At the 17 months since our very first interview with Artis, we have learned a excellent deal more concerning the circumstance.
A few of the matters we have discovered support Artis along with Carter’s claims of innocence, and some cast doubt about their functions on this awful night in June 1966.
We asked Carter ahead too. When we first spoke to him, he told me he”knew the guy who made it happen” – somebody who”confessed to the death bed”.
We were expecting that, as we told him exactly what we’d found, he would finally provide us an idea.
We all sat and talked all day, going over each part of the event and the subsequent trials.
Some moments were met with gasps and disbelieving looks, accompanied by quiet and the shaking of heads.
But Artis’ laugh would break the tension. Periodically , he and Carter would quietly bicker about some thing from back in the afternoon: the name of a bar, that lived up the mountain, who lived in the valley.
Therefore, the million-dollar question: would they disclose who admitted to the killings at the ending of their lifetime?
Sorry to be a tease, but you’ll have to listen to this episode for this …